Drones Recce/ISR/UCAV "Prospections !"

[BouDouar]

A vrai dire on comptait sur toi et ton statut de Sinologue des forums militaires pour nous dénicher le scoop sur les drones chinois et les corvettes C28A de l'ANP...
A moins de spotter les drones en plein vol pas la moindre chance d'avoir des infos en Algérie

[Henri K.]

A vrai dire on comptait sur toi et ton statut de Sinologue des forums militaires pour nous dénicher le scoop sur les drones chinois et les corvettes C28A de l'ANP...
A moins de spotter les drones en plein vol pas la moindre chance d'avoir des infos en Algérie

Les Chinois ont la réputation de garder l'anonymat de leur clients en matière de deal militaire, ils communiquent rarement le détail.

Pour le drone, la première source est venue de vous, j'attend d'ailleurs des nouvelles de quelques uns des forumeurs ici.

Henri K.

[yak]

Une nouvelle intéressante, adressé par un membre chinois de D.pk à l'intention d'un membre algérien de ce même forum

@Ceylal
中新网2月20日电 据国家国防科技工业局网站消息，2013年江西省航空产业发展迅猛，中航工业洪都集团正积极推进轰炸、运输教练机关键技术与俄罗斯合作，航空602所正与阿尔及利亚合作攻关无人机技术。
Red parts said "the 602 institute are collaboration with Algeria on UAV technology".

So it seems we not only sold CH-4 to Algeria, but also have deep collaboration with Algeria on UAV design and development. By the way, the 602 institute is majority on helicopter, so what the collaboration may be about unmmaned helicopter.

[dawestsides]

interessant en effet , mais je doutes que l'Algerie ait participe au design.Peut etre une customization...

[inconnu]

Mauvaise nouvelle, j'espère que ça ne remet pas en cause l'achat définitif

By akram

Exclusif: Un Drone s'écrase à Ain Ouessara
Après le crash du Mi 24 qui a eu lieu ce matin à In Amenas, c'est un second incident qui a frappé les forces aériennes. Il était 14 heures lorsqu'un drone de type CH 4 de fabrication Chinoise, en test en Algérie depuis plusieurs mois s'est écrasé à Ain Ouessara. L'appareil a percuté le sol à une centaine de mètres de la piste alors qu'il effectuait des manœuvres à l'atterrissage. Ce crash fait suite à celui d'un autre CH 4 qui a eu lieu à Tindouf il y a quelques mois.
Malgré ces deux crash, le drone en question impressionne par sa capacité à effectuer des missions sur de très grandes distances en étant très lourdement armé.

http://secret-difa3.blogspot.fr/2014/03 ... ssara.html

[mark2013]

mmmm dommage 2 craches je croit pas qu'il a de très grandes chances

[PSG78]

mmmm dommage 2 craches je croit pas qu'il a de très grandes chances

Le MI28 a lui aussi mangé la poussière pendant les test pourtant on l'achète

[sadral]

On ne connait pas le motif ou le contexte des 2 crash, et le fait qu'on continue à tester la "bête" malgré le premier crash c'est que son acquisition est toujours d'actualité.

[dz.dz]

Algeria Evaluates Chinese CH-4



Algeria is evaluating the Chinese CH-4 unmanned aircraft system (UAS) and is reportedly very interested in acquiring the type, which can be armed with guided weapons.

The CH-4, developed by the China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics (CAAA), has been undergoing testing with the Algerian military for some months. One is reported to have crashed during testing at the Algerian Air Force’s base at Tindouf several months ago while a second one crashed on Sunday at the Ain Oussera Air Base. The UAS came down 100 metres short of the runway whilst preparing to land.

In spite of the crashes, Algeria is apparently still very interested in acquiring the CH-4 (Cai Hong 4 or Rainbow 4), which appears to have been inspired by the General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper. The UAS, with a takeoff weight of 1.3 tons and a payload of 350 kg, has a wingspan of 18 metres and a length of 8.5 metres. Top speed is 235 km/h and operational altitude is 3000-3500 metres, according to officially released data, while combat radius is 2000 km and endurance is 36 hours.

CAAA technical staff claim the CH-4 has four hard points capable of carrying two AR-1 laser-guided missiles and two FT-5 small guided bombs.

The CH-4 was first seen at the Zuhai airshow in 2012 and in the absence of Chinese military interest it seems the aircraft is aimed at the export market.

Algeria has reportedly also been in discussions with China over the purchase of Xianglong unmanned aerial vehicles. Echorouk quoted an unnamed Algerian defence ministry colonel as saying that the UAS was successfully tested in Tamanrasset, southern Algeria, last year.

The Xianglong (Soar Dragon) is a jet-powered High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) aircraft designed by the Guizhou Aircraft Corporation of China, initially for use by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force. The Xianglong has a length of 14 metres, a height of 5 metres and a wingspan of 25 metres. It has a top speed of 750 km/h, endurance of up to 10 hours, and a maximum range of 7 000 km.

Tactical Weekly earlier this year reported that the Algerian Defence Ministry is said to have decided to go ahead with a programme to buy 90 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), including attack UAVs.

Last year, Algeria expressed interest in the Adcom Systems Yabhon United 40 Block 5 UAS from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to meet its Medium-Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) requirement. According to Algerian daily El Watan, Algeria is negotiating with Russia to purchase 30 E95 unmanned aerial vehicles/target drones from Russia.

Algeria is looking for aerial reconnaissance platforms to track down various Maghreb-based terrorist groups, drug and arms traffickers and militants who have taken advantage of post-war chaos in Mali and Libya to destabilise the Sahel-Maghreb region.

Algeria currently flies Denel Seeker II UAS and is believed to have ordered one new Seeker 400 system with three aircraft. The Seeker 400 is currently undergoing flight testing.

The North African country has previously expressed interest in General Atomics Predator/Reaper. It also has six King Air 350ER surveillance aircraft fitted with Gabbiano T-200 radars, Wescam Mx15i infrared cameras and other features for maritime and ground surveillance.

Since war clouds started gathering over northern Mali in November 2012, the Algerian army has deployed more than 12 000 personnel to secure the borders with Mali, Libya and Niger.

Algeria has increased its defence budget for 2014 and is actively seeking new tankers, transports, helicopters and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft. Last year Algeria evaluated the Boeing C-17 Globemaster III strategic transport and Airbus A330 MRTT tanker with an eye to replacing ageing Il-78 Midas tankers and acquiring a new transport aircraft. Algeria asked the two respective companies to conduct demonstrations, indicating the seriousness of these potential contracts.

Algeria is growing its defence spending by 6% through 2017, according to some estimates, as it modernises and re-equips to meet the challenge of insecurity and terrorism in the region.

Source: Defence

http://www.uasvision.com/2014/03/12/alg ... +VISION%29

[inconnu]

Héhé on dirait que SD fait des émules

Algeria Evaluates Chinese CH-4



Algeria is evaluating the Chinese CH-4 unmanned aircraft system (UAS) and is reportedly very interested in acquiring the type, which can be armed with guided weapons.

The CH-4, developed by the China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics (CAAA), has been undergoing testing with the Algerian military for some months. One is reported to have crashed during testing at the Algerian Air Force’s base at Tindouf several months ago while a second one crashed on Sunday at the Ain Oussera Air Base. The UAS came down 100 metres short of the runway whilst preparing to land.

In spite of the crashes, Algeria is apparently still very interested in acquiring the CH-4 (Cai Hong 4 or Rainbow 4), which appears to have been inspired by the General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper. The UAS, with a takeoff weight of 1.3 tons and a payload of 350 kg, has a wingspan of 18 metres and a length of 8.5 metres. Top speed is 235 km/h and operational altitude is 3000-3500 metres, according to officially released data, while combat radius is 2000 km and endurance is 36 hours.

CAAA technical staff claim the CH-4 has four hard points capable of carrying two AR-1 laser-guided missiles and two FT-5 small guided bombs.

The CH-4 was first seen at the Zuhai airshow in 2012 and in the absence of Chinese military interest it seems the aircraft is aimed at the export market.

Algeria has reportedly also been in discussions with China over the purchase of Xianglong unmanned aerial vehicles. Echorouk quoted an unnamed Algerian defence ministry colonel as saying that the UAS was successfully tested in Tamanrasset, southern Algeria, last year.

The Xianglong (Soar Dragon) is a jet-powered High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) aircraft designed by the Guizhou Aircraft Corporation of China, initially for use by the People’s Liberation Army Air Force. The Xianglong has a length of 14 metres, a height of 5 metres and a wingspan of 25 metres. It has a top speed of 750 km/h, endurance of up to 10 hours, and a maximum range of 7 000 km.

Tactical Weekly earlier this year reported that the Algerian Defence Ministry is said to have decided to go ahead with a programme to buy 90 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), including attack UAVs.

Last year, Algeria expressed interest in the Adcom Systems Yabhon United 40 Block 5 UAS from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to meet its Medium-Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) requirement. According to Algerian daily El Watan, Algeria is negotiating with Russia to purchase 30 E95 unmanned aerial vehicles/target drones from Russia.

Algeria is looking for aerial reconnaissance platforms to track down various Maghreb-based terrorist groups, drug and arms traffickers and militants who have taken advantage of post-war chaos in Mali and Libya to destabilise the Sahel-Maghreb region.

Algeria currently flies Denel Seeker II UAS and is believed to have ordered one new Seeker 400 system with three aircraft. The Seeker 400 is currently undergoing flight testing.

The North African country has previously expressed interest in General Atomics Predator/Reaper. It also has six King Air 350ER surveillance aircraft fitted with Gabbiano T-200 radars, Wescam Mx15i infrared cameras and other features for maritime and ground surveillance.

Since war clouds started gathering over northern Mali in November 2012, the Algerian army has deployed more than 12 000 personnel to secure the borders with Mali, Libya and Niger.

Algeria has increased its defence budget for 2014 and is actively seeking new tankers, transports, helicopters and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft. Last year Algeria evaluated the Boeing C-17 Globemaster III strategic transport and Airbus A330 MRTT tanker with an eye to replacing ageing Il-78 Midas tankers and acquiring a new transport aircraft. Algeria asked the two respective companies to conduct demonstrations, indicating the seriousness of these potential contracts.

Algeria is growing its defence spending by 6% through 2017, according to some estimates, as it modernises and re-equips to meet the challenge of insecurity and terrorism in the region.

Source: Defence

http://www.uasvision.com/2014/03/12/alg ... +VISION%29

[Palmier Dattier]

On sent parfaitement une accélération dans la volonté de l'ANP de se doter, maintenant au plus vite, non pas d'un drone mais de différentes catégories de drones, en grand nombre pour des missions diverses et flexibles. Nous risquons d'assister à la naissance d'une nouvelle arme au sein de l'AAF: les drones armés ! et dans des proportions qui surprendront plus d'un !

[jjouall]

L'Algérie est en discussion avec la Chine pour l'achat de drones Xianglong.



http://www.internationalpolicydigest.or ... a-algeria/

[mark2013]

Un drone HALE ???!!!! Enfin ca me semble beaucoup non ?

[inconnu]

Ils reprennent un article déjà posté ici

[sadral]

Global Yabhon nears maiden flight



Adcom’s Global Yabhon UAV will make its maiden flight after the end of Ramadan in July, defence sources have informed Shephard.

The enormous 10-ton platform, which was unveiled at the Dubai Airshow in November, is expected to be operated from a military airfield in the vicinity of Abu Dhabi ...http://www.shephardmedia.com/news/uv-on ... en-flight/