Mais dans les médias russes ne se confirme pas la livraison des navires à l'Algérie.PSG78 a écrit :A mon avis il vaudrait mieux attendre la confirmation par d'autres sources plus informees mais si cela s'avere vrai pourquoi tant de sources serieuses on annonces qu'on aurait des tigres russes ?
C'est exact. Jane's est numéro 1 dans le domaine.anzar a écrit :Tu peux pas trouver plus informé que Jane's. En ce moment leurs annonces c'est du béton.
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?o ... Itemid=106Algeria buying Chinese frigates
Algeria has signed a contract with China Shipbuilding Trading Company for three light frigates, after ordering two Meko A-200N frigates from Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.
The three light frigates will be built either at Guangzhou or the Shanghai Huangpu Shipyard. The vessels will displace around 2 800 tons fully loaded, and will be powered by MTU diesel engines.
The Algerian Navy has been undergoing expansion in recent years as it faces problems such as smuggling, illegal migration and indigenous terrorism. These threats mainly affect Algeria's harbours and maritime communication routes and ships passing through the Straits of Gibraltar. Consequently, the Algerian Navy maintains a well-trained and well-equipped fleet to provide security to more than 1000 km of coastline.
On March 26 this year Algeria’s ministry of defence signed a contract with ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) for two Meko A-200 frigates with an option for two more, after a year of negotiations.
TKMS will supply two Meko A-200 frigates and six AgustaWestland Super Lynx helicopters under the €2 175 520 000 contract. According to Russia’s Periscope magazine, the ships will be armed with RBS 15 Mk III anti-ship missiles, Umkhonto IR surface-to-air missiles, Oto Melara and Rheinmetall guns and MU 90 torpedoes. The helicopters will be equipped with Mokopa air-to-ground missiles.
ThyssenKrupp delivered four Meko A-200 stealth frigates to the South African Navy: the SAS Amatola, SAS Isandlwana, SAS Spioenkop and the SAS Mendi. The frigates feature exterior stealth designs and use a combination of water jet propulsion systems with a conventional diesel engines.
In the middle of last year it was announced that Algeria had signed a deal with Russia’s United Shipbuilding Corporation and state arms exporter Rosoboronexport for two new Tiger class corvettes. The Tiger corvette (Project 20382) is an export model of the Project 20380 Steregushchy class, which is the Russian Navy’s newest corvette class.
The vessel can be equipped with a variety of weaponry, including 100 or 76.2 mm guns, 14.5 mm machine guns, 533 mm torpedoes and a variety of surface-to-air and surface-to-surface missiles (e.g. P-800 Oniks, Uran-E or Yakhont). In addition, the vessels have capacity for a helicopter.
According to the IISS’s The Military Balance 2012, Algeria’s surface fleet comprises of three 1970s-era Koni class antisubmarine frigates, six corvettes, 22 patrol and coastal combat vessels, three amphibious vessels and three logistics and support ships.
In June 2006 Rosoboronexport signed a contract with the Algerian Navy for the construction of two Project 636 Improved Kilo class submarines under a roughly US$400 million contract.
Construction of the first submarine started in 2006 and the second began in 2007. They were handed over to the Algerian Navy in March and September 2010 where they joined two Project 877EKM Kilo diesel electric submarines, which Algeria received in 1987-1988.
Russia is presently upgrading a Nanuchka II class corvette and a Koni II class frigate for the Algerian Navy and will hand them over in July. Algeria and the Severnaya Verf shipyard signed a contract in 2007 for the overhaul of three warships of each class. Russia delivered the first pair, consisting of a Project 1234E Nanuchka II class corvette (Rais Hamidou) and a Project 1159T Koni II class frigate (Mourad Rais), to Algeria in February 2011.
Mais le type resta à l'inconnu... :mr green:The three light frigates will be built either at Guangzhou or the Shanghai Huangpu Shipyard. The vessels will displace around 2 800 tons fully loaded, and will be powered by MTU diesel engines.
Bien sûr, ils sont les meilleur :mr green:anzar a écrit :Mais avec les chinois on attendra pas longtemps avant de les voir à quai
Et figurez vous que cette société n'est autre que celle qui fabrique les missiles de defense anti-aérienne et les missiles anti-navires embarqués par les corvettes chinoises. Donc si l'achat s'accompagne de transfert de techno dans ce domaine, c'est plutôt une bonne chose:
http://www.cpmiec.com.cn/Defence/Portfo ... s1/61.htmlFM-90 (N), système de missiles navire-Air
FM-90 (N) est une nouvelle génération de tous les temps l'air gamme de systèmes de défense à court d'armes missiles FM-90 porte-avions, la charge principale sur les destroyers, frégates et autres navires de surface de grandes et moyennes entreprises. Le système a fait progresser la performance opérationnelle et des indicateurs tactiques et techniques peuvent répondre efficacement aux besoins des navires de surface modernes pour intercepter à basse altitude et à faible altitude de la mer à vol rasant missiles anti-navires, avions de combat à haute vitesse et des hélicoptères armés, véhicules aériens sans pilote.
http://www.cpmiec.com.cn/Defence/Portfo ... s2/77.htmlC802A multi-usages anti-navire système d'arme antimissile
C802A est d'améliorer le développement du système C802 sur la base d'une nouvelle génération de multi-usages anti-navire système d'arme antimissile, il conserve le C802 rasant vol, après le lancement de la pénétration zone d'attaque large et anti-brouillage des performances, par tous les temps des opérations pour le multi- types de plate-forme de lancement utilisant les péchés et les technologies à agilité de fréquence guidage radar terminal, et donc la plus longue portée, la précision de tir plus élevée.
la suite...Algeria buying Chinese frigates
Written by defenceWeb Wednesday, 09 May 2012 12:42
Algeria has signed a contract with China Shipbuilding Trading Company for three light frigates, after ordering two Meko A-200N frigates from Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.
The three light frigates will be built either at Guangzhou or the Shanghai Huangpu Shipyard. The vessels will displace around 2 800 tons fully loaded, and will be powered by MTU diesel engines.
The Algerian Navy has been undergoing expansion in recent years as it faces problems such as smuggling, illegal migration and indigenous terrorism. These threats mainly affect Algeria's harbours and maritime communication routes and ships passing through the Straits of Gibraltar. Consequently, the Algerian Navy maintains a well-trained and well-equipped fleet to provide security to more than 1000 km of coastline.
http://www.9abc.net/index.php/archives/790643 Chinese F22P frigates to the Pakistan satisfaction will be exported to Algeria
According to Jane’s Defense Weekly “reported on May 4, the Algerian Ministry of Defence has signed a contract, will purchase three Chinese-made light cruiser and two German-made “meko A-200 frigate. Combined with a publication sponsored by the China North Institute of Science and Technology recently disclosed the “F-22P frigates to find new customers, due to different customer requirements, its tonnage increased to 3100 tons, three-ship orders will be manufactured in China.” message, which can be the judge Algeria’s purchase “light cruiser” F-22P frigates.
[surlignement=]victory over Russian counterparts
[/surlignement]reported that Algeria ordered three frigates from China will be the construction of the shipyard in Guangzhou or Shanghai Huangpu Shipyard, ship equipment MTU diesel engines and the Chinese side to provide automated operational command system can be regarded as “quite large warships. However, the “Jane” did not disclose the specific performance of this frigate.
Algeria procurement is indeed F-22P frigates, the Navy will no doubt add a cost-effective maritime combat platforms. The F-22P frigates 123 meters long, 13.4 meters wide with a displacement of about 3000 tons, equipped with a 76.2 mm caliber guns mounted FM-90N ship-to-air missile, the type 730B near the anti-Su Shebao, anti-submarine rockets. C-802 anti-ship missiles and a Z-9EC anti-submarine helicopters, air defense, anti-submarine and anti-ship firepower readily available.
According to Russia’s “periscope” website reported on May 6, China has received three Algerian Navy frigate orders, apparently directly victory over Russia’s participation in the bid for similar products – 20.38 thousand-class escort. Reported that China the frigate win Algeria orders means in the world arms market and Russian products in direct competition to win again “. Some analysts pointed out that Chinese warships series frigate of the famous German “meko won the bid, means that Chinese military ships in the international market already has a very strong competitive force.
good reputation theSome analysts say the F-22P frigates or other models of ships made in China, able to overcome the Russian counterparts to win the order, virtue should The two advantages of a good trade reputation and mature technology. The United States, “Strategy Page” Web site reported that on May 7, F-22P frigates Jiang Wei “-2 by the Chinese navy frigate improvement from the previous main export of Pakistan. At present, the Pakistani Army has received a three-class frigates, and build its own 4. Reported that, due to Pakistan of F-22P class frigate very satisfied, very likely will increase to purchase or build its own 4. Obviously, a good user experience is conducive to the ship to further expand the international market.
Russia peers
2010 water service provided by China frigate “veterans” not only the overall design is mature, and ship equipment, anti-ship missiles, air defense missiles, ship-borne helicopters are also the Chinese Navy fleet of mature equipment, there is no use of risk, combat effectiveness and security. Also, consider the Algerian navy in 2006, equipped with Chinese-made “peak” training ship, and then operate with the Chinese production of the frigates will be more smoothly, you can save a lot of training time.
A mon avis ça sera pas exactement les mêmes, au moins côté armements et furtivité 
Combined with a publication sponsored by the China North Institute of Science and Technology recently disclosed the “F-22P frigates to find new customers, due to different customer requirements, its tonnage increased to 3100 tons, three-ship orders will be manufactured in China.” message, which can be the judge Algeria’s purchase “light cruiser” F-22P frigates.
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