Achats et Négociations

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Algeria orders Chinese corvettes and German frigates by Hedley Brampson :

The Algerian Ministry of Defence has ordered three large corvettes from China and two MEKO A-200 frigates - with an option for two more - from Germany's ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS). TKMS edged out rivals including France's DCNS, which was offering its FREMM design, to secure a frigate contract reportedly worth between EUR2.176 billion and EUR2.5 billion (USD2.86 billion and USD3.28 billion). The deal also includes six AgustaWestland Super Lynx 300 helicopters optimised for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and anti-surface warfare (ASuW), plus training and infrastructure/maintenance packages. Meanwhile, IHS Jane's understands that Algeria has contracted China State Trading Corporation (CSTC) to supply the three corvettes, which will be built at either Guangzhou Shipyard International or Huangpu Shipyard. Displacing about 2,800 tonnes, these vessels will be considerably larger than previously thought. The corvettes will be fitted with MTU engines and control systems while China's Systems Engineering Research Institute, a subsidiary of China State Shipbuilding Corporation, is expected to provide the combat management system (CMS). Although the TKMS deal was signed on 26 March, its effective date is still some months away; the first of the two MEKO A-200 frigates is scheduled for delivery about 48 months after this date.
The platform is essentially identical to the South African Navy's 3,648 tonne Valour-class frigate and will feature the same advanced CODAG-WARP (combined diesel and gas turbine/waterjet and refined propeller) propulsion system. Armament is believed to include an Oto Melara 127 mm gun (firing Vulcano guided ammunition), Rheinmetall's close-in weapon system (possibly the MLG 27 mount), Saab's RBS 15 Mk 3 surface-to-surface missile, Denel's Umkhonto surface-to-air missile and Eurotorp's MU90 lightweight torpedo. The CMS will be supplied by Atlas Electronik while air search radars are thought to be from EADS (perhaps a variant of the TRS-3D set). Sonar systems have not yet been finalised but will include a towed array system. L-3 MAPPS is expected to provide an integrated platform management solution with advanced battle damage control and onboard team training capability. The Super Lynx helicopters will be armed with the MU90 torpedo in the ASW role and Denel's Mokopa air-to-ground missile for ASuW. It is likely that another batch of corvettes is being built for the Algerian Navy by China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation, however details are not available. Meanwhile, Algeria is building a single 80-85 m corvette domestically and in mid-2011 contracted Italian company Orrizonte Sistemi Navali for a large amphibious/logistic support ship due for completion in 2015. Other requirements include two mine countermeasures vessels (with an option for two more) and two submarines.
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Algeria orders Chinese corvettes and German frigates by Hedley Brampson :

The Algerian Ministry of Defence has ordered three large corvettes from China and two MEKO A-200 frigates - with an option for two more - from Germany's ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS). TKMS edged out rivals including France's DCNS, which was offering its FREMM design, to secure a frigate contract reportedly worth between EUR2.176 billion and EUR2.5 billion (USD2.86 billion and USD3.28 billion). The deal also includes six AgustaWestland Super Lynx 300 helicopters optimised for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and anti-surface warfare (ASuW), plus training and infrastructure/maintenance packages. Meanwhile, IHS Jane's understands that Algeria has contracted China State Trading Corporation (CSTC) to supply the three corvettes, which will be built at either Guangzhou Shipyard International or Huangpu Shipyard. Displacing about 2,800 tonnes, these vessels will be considerably larger than previously thought. The corvettes will be fitted with MTU engines and control systems while China's Systems Engineering Research Institute, a subsidiary of China State Shipbuilding Corporation, is expected to provide the combat management system (CMS). Although the TKMS deal was signed on 26 March, its effective date is still some months away; the first of the two MEKO A-200 frigates is scheduled for delivery about 48 months after this date.
The platform is essentially identical to the South African Navy's 3,648 tonne Valour-class frigate and will feature the same advanced CODAG-WARP (combined diesel and gas turbine/waterjet and refined propeller) propulsion system. Armament is believed to include an Oto Melara 127 mm gun (firing Vulcano guided ammunition), Rheinmetall's close-in weapon system (possibly the MLG 27 mount), Saab's RBS 15 Mk 3 surface-to-surface missile, Denel's Umkhonto surface-to-air missile and Eurotorp's MU90 lightweight torpedo. The CMS will be supplied by Atlas Electronik while air search radars are thought to be from EADS (perhaps a variant of the TRS-3D set). Sonar systems have not yet been finalised but will include a towed array system. L-3 MAPPS is expected to provide an integrated platform management solution with advanced battle damage control and onboard team training capability. The Super Lynx helicopters will be armed with the MU90 torpedo in the ASW role and Denel's Mokopa air-to-ground missile for ASuW. It is likely that another batch of corvettes is being built for the Algerian Navy by China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation, however details are not available. Meanwhile, Algeria is building a single 80-85 m corvette domestically and in mid-2011 contracted Italian company Orrizonte Sistemi Navali for a large amphibious/logistic support ship due for completion in 2015. Other requirements include two mine countermeasures vessels (with an option for two more) and two submarines.
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SVP KRATOS y a t'il de nouveau sur les dragueurs de mines et les sous-marin :?:
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Soit Amur soit S-1000
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KRATOS a écrit :Soit Amur soit S-1000
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Merci Kratos pour cet article de Janes. Je note trois points essentiels:
1- Les corvettes chinoises ressemblent furieusement à des frégates qui ne disent pas leur nom (2800 tonnes). Janes en annonce trois fermes et trois en option. 6 frégates chinoises + 4 Mekko = 10 frégates ! On passe dans une autre catégorie.
2- Je note également que Janes ne parle plus des corvettes russes Tigre, ni par ailleurs de frégates italiennes orizonte ! Auraient elles disparues des radars de la marine nationale ?
3- Notre flotte sous-marine va grandir pour arriver à 6 sous-marins. Nous devenons ainsi la plus importante flotte sous marine du sud de la mediterrannée d'une part et certainement la flotte marine la plus importante et la mieux armée.
4- La marine nationale a également mis l'accent sur la lutte anti-sous marine; ce qui révèle une vraie préoccupation de la part de nos stratèges militaires

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déjà posté + H.S
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honnêtement ils ne peuvent pas faire bosser les chantiers navals de Mers El Kebir pour les patrouilleurs ! :x

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For the subs I don t see how we could get Amur or S1000 any time soon.... :doute1:



As far I know the Russian are not happy with their LADA and may (emphasis may) look in to the project again in 2014, if I recall. For the S1000, also nice.....but just on paper....where does it swim?
I know here in the forum I was told as well about those types, but if this is for the next 2-3 years time I can only see the 636M or Chinese design derivates with AIP.

Could you give us some more clue KRATOS, please.... :help:
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malikos a écrit :For the subs I don t see how we could get Amur or S1000 any time soon.... :doute1:



As far I know the Russian are not happy with their LADA and may (emphasis may) look in to the project again in 2014, if I recall. For the S1000, also nice.....but just on paper....where does it swim?
I know here in the forum I was told as well about those types, but if this is for the next 2-3 years time I can only see the 636M or Chinese design derivates with AIP.

Could you give us some more cluhttp://www.forcesmaghreb.com/forum/posting.php ... 4&p=10631e KRATOS, please.... :help:
contracted Italian company Orrizonte Sistemi Navali for a large amphibious/logistic support ship due for completion in 2015. Other requirements include two mine countermeasures vessels (with an option for two more) and two submarines.
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TDA Lefébure is specialized in the integration of 400 Hz power supply for the aerospace and military sector, 400 Hz Studer cables, Skypit cable retriever, converters, 400 Hz power supply systems.

ALGERIAN AIRFORCE: Tamanrasset Air Base: 400 Hz power plants, associated networks, ground pits and AN 400 INFRA protection sets for MIG and Mirage airplanes and MI helicopters.


http://www.proavia.com/products-and-ser ... wer-supply
radio procedures, airmanship , and decision making in flight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIUBVE1bUnI
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DIRECT COMMERCIAL SALES PROGRAM (DCS)

Under this program, the Office of Defense Trade Controls of the Department of State licenses the sale of police equipment (including pistols, revolvers, shotguns, rifles,
and crowd control chemicals) by private U.S. companies to foreign military forces, paramilitary units, police, and other government agencies. In FY 2008, American firms are expected to deliver more than $175 million worth of this kind of hardware to Algeria through the DCS program, along with, $19 million worth for Morocco
http://beemp3.com/download.php?file=995 ... +of+Africa
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T800 a écrit :
TDA Lefébure is specialized in the integration of 400 Hz power supply for the aerospace and military sector, 400 Hz Studer cables, Skypit cable retriever, converters, 400 Hz power supply systems.

ALGERIAN AIRFORCE: Tamanrasset Air Base: 400 Hz power plants, associated networks, ground pits and AN 400 INFRA protection sets for MIG and Mirage airplanes and MI helicopters.


http://www.proavia.com/products-and-ser ... wer-supply
J'ai un problème de compréhension ou ils parlent de mirages à Tamanrasset ?

j'ai trouvé la version française http://www.proavia.fr/tda-lefebure ils ne parlent ni de mig ni de mirage ! je pense que le traducteur a brodé pour la version en anglais.

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Quelqu'un aurait une idée des armes à feu qu'on aurait acquis auprès des américains ?
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